On Jan 31, 2016, at 2:00 AM, Anna von Reitz <avannavon@gmail.com> wrote:
For Arnie Rosner—Reply to Suggestions
1. The organic Constitution is installed as the supreme law of the land.
The Constitution, thank God, never left and doesn’t have to be
“installed”—but it may (once we have educated ourselves sufficiently)
need to be seriously corrected in some respects. Term limits for
Congress and no ability for Congress to exempt itself from the
consequences of any action it takes and an end to Article 1, Section 8,
Clause 17 all spring to mind. A complete reworking of the sections
dealing with courts and the judiciary also. The Constitution is a
marvelous thing, but it has been over 200 years and while many needs and
issues remain the same, we don’t have to maintain a split jurisdiction
allowing any foreign governments to meddle in our affairs. The time will
come for a Continental Congress— a real one, not a fake—that brings
together Fiduciary Deputies from every state to take stock of where we
are and where we want to be.
2. It
would seem that there should be some sort of NOTICE provided announcing
the termination of all contracts and agreements with any current
contractors/employees. Fortunately or unfortunately, none of
these people are actually working for us, and even if we had the right
to terminate employees of middlemen employers (which is arguable since
we are ultimately the ones paying for all this “service”) – it would
cause real panic and chaos because there is no other organized system in
place yet.
3. Some key issues with which we would consider dealing…
Washington, D.C. recognition revoked. Start charging rent for space.
The discussion so far is to absorb DC back into the states that
contributed to it to begin with and ensure that it is no longer operated
as a separate Congressional oligarchy.
4. Congress dissolved.
The incorporated Congress is a private body— a corporate Board of
Directors—of a bankrupt corporation, so it is already in receivership
and its assets are under distribution by Trustees. In a sense,
“Congress” is already dissolved, impotent, forced to operate through
secondary corporations if at all. The problem is that false claims have
been made to the effect that we and our public and private property
assets are “standing good” for this bankrupt entity and the Trustees are
trying to seize upon us and sell off our property to pay the creditors
of the bankrupt UNITED STATES, INC. We have objected and refuted any
such presumption on the part of the Trustees and have also repudiated
the mounds of odious debt that the UNITED STATES, INC. accumulated in
“our names” and left for us to pay, just like any other identity thief
or credit card snatcher.
5. The Judiciary has its authority revoked.
The strange truth is that unless you are actually involved in business
on the sea or operating a corporation or are functioning as an employee
or dependent of the federal government, the Federal Judiciary has never
had any authority over you.
Except for a vague reference in Article I, another vague reference in
Article VI, and Amendment VII, the real court system that everyone at
the Constitutional Convention knew and thought of and took for granted
was the then-functioning and powerful Continental Common Law Court
system, which existed in the land jurisdiction and so was not part of the subject matter related to the Constitution.
The courts set up by the Constitution are all corporate administrative
tribunals and Admiralty/Maritime courts— precisely what you would expect
of a document created to set up an organization charged with protecting
the National Trust on the High Seas and Navigable Inland Waterways and
providing nineteen services all of which are in the international
jurisdiction of the sea. The Federal Government has nothing much to do
with the land jurisdiction—by the Founder’s design—so The Constitution
simply doesn’t make mention of the land jurisdiction court system which
had been functioning since the first Pilgrims waded ashore and which has
functioned barely to the present day— except for those two vague
references and very directly, in Amendment VII.
Another point for Americans to understand is that the “United States
Supreme Court” is only “supreme” for the Federal United States and its
corporation employees. It has no power over the free sovereign and
independent organic states nor over the free sovereign and independent
people living in those states.
The function of the United States Supreme Court
is to interpret the Constitution’s trust indenture, treaty
requirements, and service contract for the federal corporation employees
and elected officials, thereby setting the limits for them. Not for us.
Our Federal Supreme Court that addresses those “federal issues” that arise on the land jurisdiction under the Commerce Clause is The Supreme Court of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Please note— there is the “United States” which is organized according
to United States Districts wherein operate United States District Courts
which are all supposed to be limited to the jurisdiction of the sea and
the Law of the Sea (though they fudge it). There are also the Federal
Postal Districts wherein operate the Federal (Postal) District Courts
that are land jurisdiction courts that operate under the Law of the
Land. There is The Supreme Court of the United States and there is The
Supreme Court of the Commonwealth (not the State) of Pennsylvania at the
top of the two different “federal courts” –one on the sea and one on
the land.
Anyway, please grasp the fact that the United States Supreme Court is
not “supreme” over you— it is supreme over them, the Federales.
6. The Administration given 5 days to vacate the premises.
Once again, you have to remember you are dealing with a private
corporation that claims to own the property and until our counter-claims
are made and successfully proven and prosecuted in behalf of the People
of the United States, they have possession of them. Also remember that
these outrages have occurred in the jurisdiction of the sea and under
the Law of the Sea, wherein “possession is nine-tenths of the law”.
Unless we want to be accused of piracy we have to play the game and
evict them properly.
7. All
treaties, agreements and legislation declared null and void…subject to
review and reconsideration by a new type of government, should one be
formed. So far as I have been able to determine the Organic Law
which includes The Declaration of Independence, Articles of
Confederation, Constitution and Northwest Ordinance plus the original
formation documents of each State of the Union are still valid and in
full force, as are the United States Statutes-at-Large which form the
only body of Public Law except those public State and County Public Laws
passed prior to incorporation of these bodies. We are always
free to reorganize on the county level and repeal or update or add to
local laws at will. In our system, the power stays with the people who
delegate to the counties which delegate to the states which delegate
some of their powers and responsibilities to the federales.
8. Transitional government agencies and resources.
We may have a somewhat rocky start dealing with the debacle of Obama
Care, reforming banking and securities law and administration, coming up
with a means to deal with transition first to a gold/silver monetary
system and later a blockchain credit delivery system, but in the main,
it is the duty of those in office to ensure a smooth and orderly
transition. Failing that, we have to take charge at the local level,
form up our own unincorporated counties, elect our own Sheriffs. and
take up the issue of continued services. Ideally this entails organizing
emergency relief organizations, food banks, hand pump water wells,
medical supply storage, having alternative power ready including
moth-balled electrical and sanitation facilities, use of churches and
schools and other large buildings in each community to provide emergency
shelter. Development of a safe community trading center would also be
desirable and useful immediately— such centers provide a place for
vendors to sell locally produced goods and goods brought in by local
people for sale — like Farmer’s Markets, but offering at least a
partially indoor venue where people can still trade comfortably and
safely in bad weather. In the event of real social upheaval, such
trading centers will have to have armed security to prevent raids and
theft.
9. Individual sovereignty is immediately recognized.
Our sovereignty has always been recognized—what has been misrepresented
and obscured is our political status. To correct this in a sane and
fair way, we need to set up a public process in which people are given
full disclosure regarding their political status options and they are
allowed to choose their option without coercion. There are plusses and
minuses whatever one chooses, but the right to make an informed decision
for oneself is fundamental.
10. Monetary system established.
The “new” monetary system is already well on the way to being here.
Initially, it will mean a return to the old gold and silver standard,
but quite soon there should be a worldwide alternative currency that
permanently de-centralizes
banking functions and provides a secure platform for trading itself and
which also interfaces with national currencies to allow mutual
translation and exchange.
11. Orderly transition of control over the military – Military protection for the people. We
have repeatedly asked for assistance from the Provost Marshals who are
responsible for coordinating joint response task forces without success.
These men have been either dumbed down or redirected so as to render
their crucial function worthless. The Coast Guard Commandant who is
supposed to protect us from inland piracy has been equally unresponsive.
This is very problematic to say the least, but on the other hand, the
military has not created any problems, either. Hopefully the growing
broad spectrum understanding of who and what the government really is
will lead to better service delivery and performance overall.
12. Public safety – police, fire and rescue. These functions are or can be headed up by volunteers in each community.
13.
Legitimate judicial system. The judicial system is already embodied in
each and every one of us and is brought to full life by the process of
reorganizing our county and state governments— either by overtly
dissolving the incorporated county and state or by creating a separate
county and county court system for the jurisdiction of the land, the
vacant offices of the public courts are filled at the same time as
Sheriffs responsible for upholding the Organic and Public Laws are
elected.
14. Healthcare: See items above related to community organization.
15. Basic life support for the indigent.
We’ve seen hard times in this country before when we have had to open
up poor houses and orphanages and hospices and “day hospitals” and
shelters and we may come to that again, but in view of the amount of
assets available there is really no reason for anyone in this country or
any other to go without anything they legitimately need. All such
suffering and deprivation has been caused by criminality and greed.
16. Other essential citizen’s services.
I am often asked about pensions and Social Security and other related
issues. The rats responsible for this fraud and mis-administration have
gutted the Social Security funds along with everything else. That’s the
bad news. The good news is that we know where it went and we are
determined that just as we are all Priority Creditors the top Priority
Creditors are America’s Seniors and Veterans, to whom we owe it all.
17. All
pensions, benefits and agreements previously in place are the
responsibility of the previous management. All inquiries must be
submitted to the United States of America, Inc. This corporation is
located in Washington, D.C.. Actually, we have claimed back all
American assets and the only ones whose pensions are subject to any
threat are Federal United States and Washington, DC citizens. So far as I
know at this point even “federal” pensions owed to anyone born in the
Continental United States or whose parents were born in the Continental
United States and who contributed to federal pension funds should be
covered in the asset reclamation. In fact—another ray of very good news—
pensions should be considerably more generous and medical care and
health preservation “extras” such as dietary supplements, massage,
physical therapy, acupuncture, hypnotherapy, kinetic kinesiology, pain
relief therapy, chiropractor services, aromatherapy, hydrotherapy,
exercise and spa programs, recreational therapy, assisted living
services, and hospice care should be far more available for the elderly
and injured and mental health services – especially early intervention
and support services and assistance with drug and alcohol and tobacco
addictions—should be much more readily available.
18. It
would also seem appropriate to notice all members of the federal
government. They must be given termination notices – perhaps given 5
days to vacate any offices and or facilities they currently occupy. It is indeed appropriate to give Notice of the facts
to federal employees and agency subcontractors in terms of what is
going on, but not termination notices which would lead to a wholesale
and disorganized panic and disruption of essential services people
depend on. The “federal government” has to be turned over and reformed
in a gradual and orderly way to prevent loss of national security, loss
of domestic services and loss of life. The new services corporation will
be considerably stripped down and reorganized, and federal employees
may be widely re-tasked and re-educated to do other jobs, but there
won’t be any extremely abrupt changeover if we can help it.
19. An interim administrative operation should be created to handle the details.
Provisions for protection of the people as well as a method to continue essential services need to be established locally.
We anticipate the delivery of pensions and services will continue
uninterrupted in most cases, but unlike the old system which promoted a
permanent welfare population everyone will have sufficient credit to pay
for all basic needs apart from any program or special entitlement or
insurance so that the need for welfare programs and administration of
welfare programs will dwindle and cease. People will simply have what
they need and community assistance will be community assistance. We will
always have the poor, the mentally ill, the addicted, the orphaned, and
the infirm among us and we will always have to deal with these special
challenges, but for many, many people the new system will offer
immediate and permanent relief, mainstreaming them back into the
community and freeing them to pursue new pathways. Marriage and family
relationships will be encouraged, nurtured, and supported.
20. It
would seem county governments and municipal governments can continue in
this function but under the direct supervision of the local citizen’s
commission. Assemblies are supposed to provide this oversight
function in the present system and for the most part have failed
dismally. County and city governments are among the most corrupt organs
in the entire system and it is up to the people to get motivated to
“self-govern”. “Representatives” who “interpret” your needs through a
filter of self-interest are no replacement for fiduciary deputies who
have to act prudently and without nepotism or conflict of interest or
improper contracting processes. Basic reorganizations and new thinking
are required especially at the local level.
21. State government agencies and agents will be dealt with as required. All employment arrangements and contracts terminated.
Again, this is not practical or desirable to do in any abrupt or
wholesale fashion and everyone should realize that although public
employment tends to be a revolving door at the higher levels, it doesn’t
have to be that way. Term limits, the end of the “two party system” and
other measures to ensure dynamic interaction with the whole community
have to be considered as part of the overall re-examination of
government functions on every level.
22. State court system abolished immediately.
The State courts are needed to deal with the issues that the state
courts have always been tasked with, but need to be operated on the land
jurisdiction and as public courts for people, not private courts for
corporations.
23. Arrangements for lawful elections must be coordinated.
The most pressing electoral process has nothing to do with public
offices, but with political status and that is not a ballot process, but
a true election that then determines the obligations and standing and
law that an individual accepts. These political status elections need to
be among the very first discussions and orders of business people
undertake.
24. An interim citizen council would need to be formed to handle care-taking details.
Don’t know what you mean by this exactly. Many communities and counties
have already formed what are being called “Safety Committees”—groups of
competent men and women who undertake the job of preserving the lives
and the property of their communities. These Safety Committees already
engage in a wide variety of functions from planning for alternative
power and fuel sources to developing “talent banks”— who knows how to
operate ham radios? —who has paramedic training? —do we have a dentist
in the area? —and organizing the local county infrastructure and
elections to fill vacant public offices.
25. All current public officers and employees must be served termination notices effective in 10 days.
These people aren’t our public officers and they aren’t our employees,
either. Not directly, anyway. This is part of what is so hard for most
Americans to understand.
These are employees of a foreign government (federal) providing “essential governmental services” for THEIR
citizens. The State is a “Federal State” and the County is a “Federal
County” – franchises of the Federal corporation charged with providing
these services and all of these entities are functioning in the foreign
jurisdiction of the sea and under the Law of the Sea, not the Law of the
Land, because they all incorporated themselves to share in the
racketeering profits generated by the fraud.
Your government — which you thought you were paying for and electing people to fill offices in — is vacant
because you were deluded and deceived and mischaracterized as a
“Federal Citizen” and failed to operate the land jurisdiction you are
owed. Your government isn’t present.
Your parents and grandparents were fooled just as you were and they let
it slip away gradually over a period of years and the end result is
that we have to entirely rebuild the land jurisdiction government in
America as unincorporated cities, unincorporated counties, unincorporated states, and have to seat a Continental (land) Congress as opposed to a United States (sea) Congress.
26. Notice also provided for new applications for employment being accepted by citizen commissions.
We are just now in the process of recouping our assets and reclaiming
our land and our sea jurisdiction from these interlopers. This is being
done on a volunteer basis at present. Any idea anyone has that we are
suddenly all set up, have plenty of money, and can just go ahead and
hire a new government to suit ourselves needs to step back about ten
steps and take stock of where we really are. A few Americans woke up in
time to save the Constitution, save our land claims, pass the “federal
contract” to Americans and reconsolidate our joint claim on our
jurisdiction of the sea. We are now pursuing American assets which have
been stolen, given away, registered in foreign domains all over the
globe, taken via false claims of abandonment, suffered hypothecation,
false copyrights—you name it, we have to deal with it, folks—-and that
is just the nuts and bolts part of getting our land patents and land
descriptions and copyrights to our names and our gold and silver that
have been purloined and our credit that has been hijacked and our
identities that have been stolen back in our control and possession.
At the same time there are unincorporated
county, city, and state governments to set up, Sheriffs on the Land to
elect, rats to arrest, liens to be collected, law suits to be filed,
crimes to be prosecuted—all on a worldwide and totally unprecedented in
the history of the world scale.
Some aspects of this will come together surprisingly quickly, but this
is not going to happen overnight. Even if we all grab an oar to Save
America and pull our Ship of State off the reef these criminals were
trying to drive us upon, it will take time and effort and long patient
slogging to restore the government we are heir to.
Open to further suggestions and discussion.
As usual, certain people (names deleted) drive me crazy running out
far, far ahead of the game, trying to resolve things that MIGHT be
resolvable two years from now and chomping at the bit, wanting to know
why it isn’t already all done right NOW? Yesterday, even? I get the
feeling that I am somehow responsible for this mess –at least in the minds of some- simply because I took action to try to correct it and raised the alarm.
Like the feckless suspect in a murder mystery who wandered into the
library, found the dead body on the carpet with a blood-stained knife
beside it, and mindlessly picked the knife up just in time for the Chief
Inspector and four or five witnesses to show up and accuse me of the
deed?
I have— among all the other fascinating facts I have learned in this
life—learned that if you discover a crime and report it, you are
automatically suspected of being guilty of it or responsible for it
somehow. But, of course, if you discover a crime you have the duty to
report and oppose it, or you become an accomplice to it—-so you are
damned if you do and damned if you don’t and you might as well just do
your best, throw your hands in the air, shake your head– and run full
tilt screaming into the bushes.